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Poster: TheGreat_and_Knowledgable Date: Jan 6, 2007 3:15pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Cornell Show

I havent listened to this cornell show in awhile (you know which one im speaking of) now i have to admit it used to be my top 5 shows. Now im beginning to think its really overrated. Especially with the weak Jack Straw (thats supposed to be a killer song). However, its not a terrible show definately would tell someone to dl it just as weakpoints at times that should be good.

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Poster: skuzzlebutt Date: Jan 6, 2007 9:52pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Cornell Show

It's very much a classic in my opinion, but not infallable. The Scarlet>Fire is tremedous, the Dew is the definitive version IMO, and the overall level of playing is at the the usual top-notch '77 standard. The NFA jamming gets a little old after a while. Cornell is easily a Top 20 for me, probably a Top 10 but not a Top 5.

6/7 doesn't even make my Top 5 for '77.

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Poster: wagglebee Date: Jan 6, 2007 5:31pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Cornell Show

I'm one of those who has never been all that impressed with this show. For that matter, I've read a great deal that suggests that the show never even occurred and is really just a mixed tape.

However, the Boston Garden show from the night before is as close to perfect as you can get in my opinion. It has the greatest FOTD ever and the whole show is full of energy from start to finish.

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Poster: deadmax Date: Jan 6, 2007 6:31pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Cornell Show

lobster12 - I agree with you about the Hampton. Besides the fact that my ticket was for the third night, I've listened to the show and I do think it is very good, BUT, they really blow the sunshine daydream, it was like they just forgot what they were doing or something. For me, it is the equivalent of a Donna wailing banshee moment. Ruins the show for me.

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Poster: JodyC Date: Jan 6, 2007 8:53pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Cornell Show

Proud to say my first show waggle. And I for one have never warmed to 6/7.

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Poster: Cliff Hucker Date: Jan 7, 2007 5:20pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Cornell Show

Cliff is streaming right now.

Cliff thinks that although over-rated, this remains a tremendous show, and certainly one of the best ever!

Cliff believes some folks may be put off by the somewhat over-produced quality to the show?

Cliff believes this show to be monumental, and a classic example of the total exceeding the sum of its parts...

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Jan 7, 2007 5:29pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Cornell Show

other than Cliff using the term "over-rated" (which is very subjective to say the least), Cliff could not be more accurate in his assessment of the show.

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Poster: countmlbjam Date: Jan 9, 2007 9:34am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Cornell Show

I think this show should be looked at in the proper context. That context being 1977 dead. When you look at the whole year, I don't see 5/8 standing out as a WHOLE show. I prefer many complete shows to Cornell from 77. But it has some great moments. S>F, Dancin, NFA, and Dew are phenomenal moments. It is essential to have the 2nd set, but there are shows I prefer to Cornell.

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Poster: Cliff Hucker Date: Jan 6, 2007 5:01pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Cornell Show

You admittedly have not listened to the show in a while.

Cliff suggests for you to refresh your memory...

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Poster: lobster12 Date: Jan 6, 2007 4:13pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Cornell Show

Just like anything that has hype, you will always find people that think this gig is overrated. I happen to disagree, but veryone is entitled. I happen to think night 2 in hampton 89 is overrated and I'm in the minority on that.

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Jan 6, 2007 4:55pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Cornell Show

i'm on record here too for saying there is no way that show is overrated (imnsho of course) - one of their best by far.

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Poster: tigerbolt Date: Jan 6, 2007 4:53pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Cornell Show

it's a good show,and when your a newbie this is a classic show to have.then you really start to listen to the band and realize way better shows from 77 like 6-9-77.sorry but imho it blows 5-8 out the door.that being said 5-8 is a good show and not to shabby for a show that was never performed.(:

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Poster: Cliff Hucker Date: Jan 6, 2007 6:39pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Cornell Show

Dude, you always rock!

http://www.archive.org/details/gd1977-06-09.28614.sbeok.flac16

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Poster: dstanme Date: Jan 6, 2007 5:09pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Cornell Show

Which one was the Buffalo show from that run?? There is the most amazing Help, the first solo defines Garcia, to me, as a guitar player...just wonderful...

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Poster: stratocaster Date: Jan 7, 2007 6:14am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Cornell Show

05-08-1977, in a year with so many great shows , why is this one top five? for me, there are aboout 6 tunes that are as top shelf as they get even for 77 standards, also this one of the crown jewels of the revealing and circulation of that great Betty Board stash...thus the popularity of the show spiked big time...the tapes sound great and the shwo has a very reverby aura that worked so well that night...

however, do not dismiss 05-09-1977, that is another amazing show...09-03-1977 and 06-09-1977 are 2 other shows that could rival 05-08 for the top spot...

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Poster: orchiddoctor Date: Jan 7, 2007 12:08pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Cornell Show

Yeah, it is a gem among many gems, but with the DP 77 releases, well, it doesn't shine that much. On it's own, I would give it an A/A-, but I would give quite a few others the same grade. It's like picking the best from 1972. Can't do it.

I think it is also rated very high because it was one of the first 77s to be released.

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Poster: doc drennan Date: Jan 6, 2007 3:39pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Cornell Show

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Poster: Liamfinnegan Date: Jan 6, 2007 6:52pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Cornell Show

I would put this show in a top 100- or top 5% of all known shows- I am not a fan of the first set much- it has good moments- I am not a big fan of the pre-drums- but the back end of this show post drums is ablaze- the post drums has got to be a top 25- (oh no - a new best of post is chasing me down, trying to pin me to a wall, hold a gun to my head, and make me start a post about show segments........)HELLLLLLPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP)

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Poster: TheGreat_and_Knowledgable Date: Jan 6, 2007 8:05pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Cornell Show

i agree with the set 2 being really good, but without a strong set 1 whats to keep me interested. Plus like i said i love a good jack straw, and if they play jack straw they gotta play it right